House passes GAS to build more oil refineries
WA$INGTON -- The oiled-down fat cats got some more welfare from the Republican US House today with passage of the GAS Act. The 212-210 vote was close and contentious, with several Republicans voting against it.The Dems actually held tough on this one. Good job. Citizens will respect that.
House Republicans are using this unwise bill, unethically attaching it to Hurricane Katrina relief, to shovel more favors to the ultra-rich oil industry. This scam would allow more pollution, while doing nothing to encourage conservation.
This is terrible legislation, an example of the anti-public-interest extremism of Tom DeLay; it should die in the Senate.
Americans want renewable energy now, and more conservation. The people are way ahead of the politicians on this.
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Until everyone (car companies, oil companies, chemical companies et all) are on-board, we are going to have to rely on oil...and we need to meet that need, with more refinieries, more oil drilling and better ways of being INDEPENDANT of foreign oil.
Got agreement over here.
That is why oil companies have not built new refineries.
They're not stupid. They are not going to go about the mean business of investing incredible amounts of money in refineries that will soon have less petroleum to work with. Indeed, refineries that will go idle before the investment can be returned.
More oil drilling? WHERE? American oil production peaked (as in Hubbert's Peak) decades ago. We do not have any more domestic sites to drill, dudes.
Building a refinery is only a good idea if you intend to bilk the rubes out of the money it will cost to put the thing up, because it will never pay for itself. It's a good old-fashioned boondoggle, boys and girls.
Jimmy Carter tried to straighten this out years ago, when we may have had time. Reagan stopped all that because it made too much sense for his stupid brain and stupid administration.
It's basically too late now. And no, the "energy Santa Claus" or a "Bill Gates of energy" is not going to miraculously materialize out of the ether to save the day.
The era of cheap oil is over. Prepare for what comes next, because it's coming whether you like it or not.
companies. The prices of gas although expensive, are not expensive enough yet to rock the boat.......... as soon as it is.... some great mind will prove your gloom and doom theory wrong. Think positive shrimplate.... its all we have.
The above post by yet another "anomynous" just shows the depth of denial we all live in.
Nobody (well, very few people) are preparing for a "post-carbon-fuel society." We act as though oil will last forever, and it won't.
A "Hydrogen economy?!" Dream on.
Do I "have all the answers"? No. I don't have any and I offered none.
But it might be a good idea to shorten your commute and tighten your belt buckles a little because this isn't going to be pretty.
You will have to scale down a little bit. By that I mean you will find yourself just happy to be able to feed your children, and all other spending will be absolutely minimal.
Can anyone answer HONESTLY why we havent tapped into it?
I agree we need to seek alternative sources, but there is a fiscal crises brewing which is easily rectified...why not take advantage of it?
This wasn't so bad for situations in which natural gas supplies were close to the oil deposits. But that is often not the case.
Also, the price of natural gas itself has gone up quite a bit. This is prohibitive.
It has nothing to do with protecting wilderness. There is no army of ecologists anywhere on earth that can stand between oil companies and profitable oil deposits.
The Colorado and Wyoming deposits, like the Canadian deposits of oil shale, are not presently profitable. It takes almost as much energy to get the oil out of the rock as the resultant oil will subsequently produce. And it costs too much money.
There may as well be oil deposits on the moon.
Look, the oil companies have been awash in record profits for quite some time now, and they have not used these enormous sums of money to invest in oil shale recovery nor new refineries.
They aren't making many hydrogen fuel cells either, dudes and dudettes.
They are taking the money and running.
Because they know. So what are planning to do? Just give them more money to run away with?
This wasn't so bad for situations in which natural gas supplies were close to the oil deposits. But that is often not the case.
Also, the price of natural gas itself has gone up quite a bit. This is prohibitive.
It has nothing to do with protecting wilderness. There is no army of ecologists anywhere on earth that can stand between oil companies and profitable oil deposits.
The Colorado and Wyoming deposits, like the Canadian deposits of oil shale, are not presently profitable. It takes almost as much energy to get the oil out of the rock as the resultant oil will subsequently produce. And it costs too much money.
There may as well be oil deposits on the moon.
Look, the oil companies have been awash in record profits for quite some time now, and they have not used these enormous sums of money to invest in oil shale recovery nor new refineries.
They aren't making many hydrogen fuel cells either, dudes and dudettes.
They are taking the money and running.
Because they know. So what are we planning to do? Just give them more money to run away with?